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Post by Cincinnatti GM on Oct 22, 2006 18:54:51 GMT -5
To Cincinnati: 3B Wilkin Ramirez(A)
To Detroit: SS Royce Clayton(MLB)
Cincinnati Accepts
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Post by Las Tigres on Oct 22, 2006 18:55:46 GMT -5
To Cincinnati: 3B Wilkin Ramirez(A) To Detroit: SS Royce Clayton(MLB) Cincinnati Accepts Detroit accepts
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Post by Twins GM on Oct 22, 2006 19:00:01 GMT -5
Whoops. I can't. I didn't really look at the players, and I didn't know Wilkin was as good as he was.
Vetoed.
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Post by Brewers GM on Oct 22, 2006 19:39:03 GMT -5
I don't know why you can't, this is obviously a here and now trade, Detroit looking for something here and now, Cincy working on bettering their Minor League System
Accepted
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Post by California GIANTS on Oct 22, 2006 19:40:09 GMT -5
very good 4.0 prospect for a 36-year-old SS who has never been good and has bad ratings is definetly not fair.
Ramirez has great power, speed and fielding ratings, hes going to be so much better than Clayton ... potential all-star Not to mention that detroit has 2 SS's better than clayton on their 25-man roster
and it also doesnt make sense cause the reds are trying to win now and detroit should be looking toward the future .. not the other way around
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Post by Twins GM on Oct 22, 2006 19:47:59 GMT -5
Clayton isn't going to help anyone now or the future. As I said on AIM.. Does he have good... contact? no gap? no power? no eye? no avoid k's? no speed? no defense? no
And look at player development. In 1 1/2 months.. Clayton has been on the Player Development 6 times for de-progressing. People need to start realizing stars aren't everything. Clayton doesn't deserve a 2.0* rating.. he should be a 0.0* like the retired players.
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Post by youk4mvp- Red Sox on Oct 22, 2006 19:48:58 GMT -5
hmm... This trade does seem to favor Cincy, but it's not so bad that its worth vetoing. im going to accept
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Post by Twins GM on Oct 22, 2006 19:52:39 GMT -5
hmm... This trade does seem to favor Cincy, but it's not so bad that its worth vetoing. im going to accept Ok. I have a trade offer for you (I know this isn't an offer place, but oh well). Juan Castro for Dustin Pedroia. C'mon. Castro is better than Clayton. It's a fair trade obviously so you have to do it.
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Post by California GIANTS on Oct 22, 2006 19:55:33 GMT -5
hmm... This trade does seem to favor Cincy, but it's not so bad that its worth vetoing. im going to accept Ok. I have a trade offer for you (I know this isn't an offer place, but oh well). Juan Castro for Dustin Pedroia. C'mon. Castro is better than Clayton. It's a fair trade obviously so you have to do it. yea ... do it!
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Post by soadjaeger yankees gm on Oct 22, 2006 20:18:09 GMT -5
i have said that since day 1
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Post by youk4mvp- Red Sox on Oct 22, 2006 20:33:11 GMT -5
why would i have to complete a trade just because its fair? These two teams have agreed on the trade, Detroit is looking for now, cincy is looking for later. Its two different approaches, but that doesn't make it unfair. Not every trade can be perfectly balanced, and we can't veto every trade that isn't.
I still approve
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Post by LAA on Oct 22, 2006 22:14:12 GMT -5
I have to intervene here as i have been around 00tp since it first came out and it seems Twins GM is theo nly one who knows that hes talking about
STOP LOOKING AT HIS STARS RATING
it has nothing to do with how good a player is look at his overall and talent rating thats what matter this trade is ridiculous
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Post by Brewers GM on Oct 22, 2006 22:16:02 GMT -5
When I approved, I didn't look at the stars.
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Post by LAA on Oct 22, 2006 22:20:24 GMT -5
When I approved, I didn't look at the stars. ON simple ratings alone this should not pass nevermind once you throw in the age of the players involved
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Post by Brewers GM on Oct 22, 2006 22:21:17 GMT -5
You know what? AGE and RATINGS aren't the only things to be considered in the trade either.
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